At 47MB ? I most certainly hope so.... :D

hi they were not included but now they are, i forgot to pack them :/ even though it says "PACK YOUR BLEND" haha but now the size has almost doubled. it a big size due to having 3 particle systems with a lot of particles in each one. plus all the textures

Yes, well here's something that isn't common knowledge (to say the least) and some explaining to do then.. You see, Blender stores the particle-data as soon as they are generated, which is when you render them, or display them in the viewport. It's much like a renderresult in the UVeditor-viewport: blender keeps the data, even if you disconnect from the datablock. However, UNLIKE a renderresult, blender also pack's the particle-data when you save the blend-file. Now this is a blistering nuisance, because these are HUGE, and what's more, they can be regenerated in split-seconds anyway, so why save the stuff... Maybe you can disable this somewhere, I wouldn't know, but there's a trick to get around it. Here's what you do: A) Make sure all particle-systems are enabled in the viewport, blender is storing these data now. B) Go to the particlesystem-settings and set the emission-number of each system to zero, blender is still storing these data, but now there aren't any..... C) Go to modifiers and disable all particle-systems in the viewport by clicking on the little eye-icon. From now on, don't re-enable or render before you save. D) Back to the particlesystem-settings and reset the emission-numbers to their proper values, blender is NOT storing this, because we're not using the systems, nothing get's generated yet... E) Save the blend, and check on the filesize to see if it worked... If I estimate correct this should reduce the size of your blend to about 25MB. ( 23MB for textures plus 2)... Cherio... :)

thanks for the info ill give it a try

thank you very much, very much appreciated